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spd500

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Thats alot of dough for just a 100 hp gain . You can add more than 100 hp with heads and a cam for alot less money .
 

blazeracer

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spd500 said:
Thats alot of dough for just a 100 hp gain . You can add more than 100 hp with heads and a cam for alot less money .

Let me rephrase. Once you've gotten all you can our of you cam and heads, it's ANOTHER 100 hp. And it's there all the time with no bottle to fill. Plus, that  link I posted was for a new system. Used ones can be had all the time for $1,500.

Here's a Procharger dyno thread with numbers down at the bottom. 230hp gain after tuning. I'll take it.

http://www.blackls1ta.com/tech_files.htm

I guess 100 is being modest. I read an article one time fairly recently where a crappy ole Powerdyne made 110 on an otherwise stock Tahoe. That's the bottom of the barrel charger there. ALL the others are better.
 

spd500

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I have seen good deals on used chargers online several times , but you will get alot more boost for your buck with a good turbo setup . You can still run a turbo under an engine cover , you just gotta do a few things different than if it were an open engine .
 

blazeracer

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Don't get me wrong, turbo is the ultimate power adder. I just think the complexity and heat generated would be too much for my cramped engine bay. I think KONA is the only, one here with a tighter engine bay than mine. If I do an LS on my Enforcer down the road, it will definitely go turbo, especially after seeing what Hass did with his boat at Tawakoni.
 

KONA77

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Blazeracer,  you win that one,  my engine compartment is open behind the backs seats,  it's just tight up on top, and low because of the low profile sides,  :smile17:
 

Crusader

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blazeracer said:
If I do an LS on my Enforcer down the road, it will definitely go turbo, especially after seeing what Hass did with his boat at Tawakoni.

Haas's boat at Tawakoni......that was an impressive ride!!! Wow...when I heard that motor winding up....and saw the incredible instant speed he was getting....I just couldn't believe what I was seeing.
 

spd500

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blazeracer said:
Don't get me wrong, turbo is the ultimate power adder. I just think the complexity and heat generated would be too much for my cramped engine bay. I think KONA is the only, one here with a tighter engine bay than mine. If I do an LS on my Enforcer down the road, it will definitely go turbo, especially after seeing what Hass did with his boat at Tawakoni.

It can be done , look at the setups that they are running in small cars . You would have to wrap any exhaust that is not water cooled , and put a heat wrap on the hot side of the turbo , but I don't think it would be that hard to do .
 

TintMan

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Crusader said:
blazeracer said:
If I do an LS on my Enforcer down the road, it will definitely go turbo, especially after seeing what Hass did with his boat at Tawakoni.

Haas's boat at Tawakoni......that was an impressive ride!!! Wow...when I heard that motor winding up....and saw the incredible instant speed he was getting....I just couldn't believe what I was seeing.
Hass's boat is a screamer...but it also has an all aluminum 555 twin turbo...prolly a $35,000 deal...definitely not something achievable outta junkyard LS. 
 

spd500

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Why all the hatin on the LS ? He didn't say he was going after Haas , just that he was impressed with his setup .
 

Crusader

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spd500 said:
Why all the hatin on the LS ? He didn't say he was going after Haas , just that he was impressed with his setup .

I don't see any LS hatin'.....Scott is just giving a bit more infor on Haas's impressive setup. Spd500...were you at Tawakoni? If not, you missed out on some impressive runs made by Haas's...we were all in "awww"
 

blazeracer

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For Clarification, HAAS is the guy that builds Ford heads, ie P-51's and designed my SCJ heads. HASS is the guy that was at Tawakoni with the really fast twin turbo boat.

No way a junk yard 5.3 is going after that motor. I should go after that guy with the skull head on his scoop. Anyone know that dude?? LOL

Even a small car with a turbo has the luxury of air moving freely from under the car. A boat has NONE. I am completely limited to the bilge vents for all ventilation, and no, I'm not making more holes in my classic hull. Of the few turbo boats I've seen out there I have never seen one with an engine cover. Seen a few blowers under the hood though. Cliff probably remembers that dude at Rockwall last summer with the big block lake cruiser that had a supercharged 505 and a wicked ass stereo system. His engine bay was the width of the boat. More room for air to move.

While heat wrap will reduce the heat that escapes it will not eliminate it and the under hood temps will get damn hot. My engine compartment has side walls that are about 2 inches from the manifolds, plus maybe 10" in front and a foot and a half behind the motor. On top, my cover hit the air cleaner with a nitrous plate on it. I don't need a 1,000hp day cruiser. 500 would be cool, and a centrifugal charger can easily achieve that, plus be very dependale and driveable and heat will never be an issue.
 

blazeracer

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Even in the open air Hass's boat has heat shield on the exhaust and turbos. I'll bet that carb alone ran $3k!! It got TWO turbos blowing through it.
 

TintMan

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spd500 said:
Why all the hatin on the LS ? He didn't say he was going after Haas , just that he was impressed with his setup .

:rolleyes: I'm not hatin...i like the idea of you guys puttin ls's in your cruisers...just sayin to compare apples to apples .Hass's rocket pulls like nothin i've seen! Carry on ... :grin:
 

TintMan

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blazeracer said:
For Clarification, HAAS is the guy that builds Ford heads, ie P-51's and designed my SCJ heads. HASS is the guy that was at Tawakoni with the really fast twin turbo boat.

No way a junk yard 5.3 is going after that motor. I should go after that guy with the skull head on his scoop. Anyone know that dude?? LOL

Even a small car with a turbo has the luxury of air moving freely from under the car. A boat has NONE. I am completely limited to the bilge vents for all ventilation, and no, I'm not making more holes in my classic hull. Of the few turbo boats I've seen out there I have never seen one with an engine cover. Seen a few blowers under the hood though. Cliff probably remembers that dude at Rockwall last summer with the big block lake cruiser that had a supercharged 505 and a wicked A$$ stereo system. His engine bay was the width of the boat. More room for air to move.

While heat wrap will reduce the heat that escapes it will not eliminate it and the under hood temps will get damn hot. My engine compartment has side walls that are about 2 inches from the manifolds, plus maybe 10" in front and a foot and a half behind the motor. On top, my cover hit the air cleaner with a nitrous plate on it. I don't need a 1,000hp day cruiser. 500 would be cool, and a centrifugal charger can easily achieve that, plus be very dependale and driveable and heat will never be an issue.
Hey James...KAASE builds the big Ford heads... :grin: just tryin to keep you guys straight...and for the record...skulls on your scoop adds 2 mph!!! :grin:
 

spd500

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I know who Haas is , I've been talking to him over on the other site about the turbo setup . He has a really awesome setup on his boat .
 
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