Enforcer Project renamed, Junk Yard Dog.

Crusader

Moderator
blazeracer said:
Man, coming a Vdrive guy even!! Hahaha....

Got a suggestion on the transom last night. Cut the glass from the inside. Dig out all of the wood leaving the outer layer of glass. Stand the boat up on it's back side. Lay a couple thick layers of new glass on the original skin. Call it done.

Man...I'd still run a sheet of 1/2 Marine grade plywood, completely coated in epoxy resin down and then apply a few coats of fiberglass cloth down. I still have some cloth and epoxy resin if you need it.
 

duanehydro

Active member
On my daycruiser, we cut the inside layer of glass, dug out the wood, used 3/4" marine plywood cut to fit in sections, added resin and clamped it to the hull with large homemade clamps. Then reglassed and added splatter to help hide any repairs. There are detailed pictures on my hotboatpics account, I just can't access from work because of this stupid Websense crap..
Just go to www.hotboatpics.com and type in duane for all my pictures. (about 30 pages, somewhere around page 13-17 I think, there are many projects from the past in there.)
 

spd500

New member
blazeracer said:
Man, coming a Vdrive guy even!! Hahaha....

Got a suggestion on the transom last night. Cut the glass from the inside. Dig out all of the wood leaving the outer layer of glass. Stand the boat up on it's back side. Lay a couple thick layers of new glass on the original skin. Call it done.

You shouldn't have to stand the boat up to do that , the glass will stick to a vertical surface . That is what people are doing on the transoms without wood . Just build it up to the same strength as if the wood was there .
 

Patchman

Administrator
Staff member
spd500 said:
blazeracer said:
Man, coming a Vdrive guy even!! Hahaha....

Got a suggestion on the transom last night. Cut the glass from the inside. Dig out all of the wood leaving the outer layer of glass. Stand the boat up on it's back side. Lay a couple thick layers of new glass on the original skin. Call it done.

You shouldn't have to stand the boat up to do that , the glass will stick to a vertical surface . That is what people are doing on the transoms without wood . Just build it up to the same strength as if the wood was there .
That's what I'm thinking! think.gif
 

blazeracer

New member
Duanehydro said:
On my daycruiser, we cut the inside layer of glass, dug out the wood, used 3/4" marine plywood cut to fit in sections, added resin and clamped it to the hull with large homemade clamps. Then reglassed and added splatter to help hide any repairs. There are detailed pictures on my hotboatpics account, I just can't access from work because of this stupid Websense crap..
Just go to www.hotboatpics.com and type in duane for all my pictures. (about 30 pages, somewhere around page 13-17 I think, there are many projects from the past in there.)

One thing I've learned is pay attention to someone who has been there and done that. 3/4" is what's in it now.

The reason for standing the boat up on end is because to get thickness you go wet on wet on wet on wet on wet alternating matt, then cloth, then matt, then cloth then matt agian.

For wood, wet coat the transom, lay on matt, another wet coat then clamp a 3/4" ply. Then outer coat with a layer of matt then cloth and be done with it. It will be strong and last forever which is great for a non racing lake boat.

Was looking at the stringers today. Will probably go with full replacement if I can get 16' long lumber. This will be a new boat when it's done.
 

spd500

New member
blazeracer said:
One thing I've learned is pay attention to someone who has been there and done that. 3/4" is what's in it now.

I couldn't agree more . But there is no reason to stand the boat on it's end to do the fiberglass repair you are talking about . Even if you planned on making it 3" thick there would be no reason to stand the boat on it's end to do it . There are a few people here that have done the job before , and even more over on PB . Ask around and get advice from people who have personally done the job . I know a little about it , and have seen ones that were done , but I am by no means a fiberglass professional . I have a few people that I ask advice from when I am doing anything with fiberglass , if you want I can give you a few phone numbers of guys that know thier stuff and don't mind sharing information .
 

blazeracer

New member
I don't have enough room to stand it up anyway. That was just a suggestion. Makes sense to get a real nice layup with out having to mix the resin hot and not get any sag in the matt. I've had cloth sag just doing stringers. vertical can be a challenge without mixing it too hot, which greatly reduces the strength.

Today, got most of the pump parts media blasted. Still have the bowl to do, but I need to replace the blast media. I'm spending more time getting the glass bead to flow than actual blasting. I have a donor oven in the shop so I can start powder coating parts tomorrow, hopefully. We're pretty busy with pop warner football this weekend.
 

spd500

New member
Crusader said:
They were cheap, I think I paid $32 for two 22' lengths....not expensive at all.

Sounds cheap enough to me  :smile13: That is nothing to pay for the peace of mind in knowing it was done right  :smile30:
 

duanehydro

Active member
OK, At home, pulled up the pics, and all I have is before and after on that boat. :smile19: , using the method we were talking about.....we used the welders style vice grips around the inside diameter of where the pump sits, and used some 3' c-clamps for the rest. Adhesion is your friend..... :smile30:
once that dried, it was all gravy.
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blazeracer

New member
Cut the front skin off the transom. The innards completely fell apart. The plugs for the exhaust, one was bondo and the other was bondo-glass. CRAP!!! There were a couple of patches in there also. This wasn't the first time this transom was uncovered. Obviously the previous owner was NOT a member here.

 

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blazeracer

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What's the best place to get fiberglass product? Probably go with epoxy resin and 20 yards of 10oz woven cloth.

http://www.uscomposites.com/cloth.html

http://www.amazon.com/AeroMarine-300-Epoxy-Resin-Gallon/dp/B0047R0I18/ref=pd_sxp_grid_i_0_2

On track, too much, need more for full stringers and transom??



 

KONA77

New member
i got all the clothe and matte for my floor project from Jamestown distributors,  and bought the resin,  with out a surfacing agent in it,  so i didn't have to sand between applications locally.  just throwin it out there
 

blazeracer

New member
KONA said:
i got all the clothe and matte for my floor project from Jamestown distributors,  and bought the resin,  with out a surfacing agent in it,  so i didn't have to sand between applications locally.  just throwin it out there

I was looking at them. They have the same 10 oz E cloth linked above for $8.35/yd. Have to check shipping too. I have about a 1/2 gallon of 3M resin left from the Glastron that has surfacing agent in it. I'll use that for the final top coat.
 

spd500

New member
You might want to ask around a little , but from what I understand it is best to use the cloth and the chopped mat . The way I was told is that the cloth will tear easily if it ever gets a weak spot . The mat does not have the straight lines in the material like the cloth does , and is less likely to tear . Not really 100% sure on it though , I am just learning a little about glass work myself .
 

blazeracer

New member
I used cloth on the Glastron and it was a pain. From what I've read mat is what's used in boat construction and is way stronger. I know everything I cut out was mat and was still wicked strong. Can get a 4" wide cloth roll for seams also.
 
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