Tuesday Morning Rant.......

[scarabscs]

1. Houston drivers.  Why is it that Houston drivers do not understand how to drive in the rain?  It is not that complicated..... leave a little more space in front of you, and don’t make erratic movements.  This does not mean you have to drive 20 under the speed limit, and cause major traffic jams on the highway (290) because there is a bit of mist falling from the sky.  Traffic was backed up 3 miles further out 290 than normal..... Idiots.  Buy some good tires, and step on the gas, everything will be fine... pansies.

2.  Diesel Prices.  What the hell.  Diesel is a byproduct of refining gasoline.... it comes off of the refining process earlier than gasoline does.  Why in the HELL is it more expensive than gasoline, and why does the price keep going up.  I understand that Europe has a huge demand for diesel, that is constantly growing, but that shouldn’t cause too large of an effect on US prices.  After all, we have great refining capability, and get a decent amount of crude from the Americas.  If Obama would have approved the Valero Keystone Pipeline, and we could have easily tapped into the oil sands in Canada then it would have reduced our demand on foreign oil, therefore resulting in lower fuel prices.

End Rant.

 

[Knotty Girl]

1. Houston drivers.  Why is it that Houston drivers do not understand how to drive in the rain?  It is not that complicated..... leave a little more space in front of you, and don’t make erratic movements.  This does not mean you have to drive 20 under the speed limit, and cause major traffic jams on the highway (290) because there is a bit of mist falling from the sky.  Traffic was backed up 3 miles further out 290 than normal..... Idiots.  Buy some good tires, and step on the gas, everything will be fine... pansies.

2.  Diesel Prices.  What the hell.  Diesel is a byproduct of refining gasoline.... it comes off of the refining process earlier than gasoline does.  Why in the HELL is it more expensive than gasoline, and why does the price keep going up.  I understand that Europe has a huge demand for diesel, that is constantly growing, but that shouldn’t cause too large of an effect on US prices.  After all, we have great refining capability, and get a decent amount of crude from the Americas.  If Obama would have approved the Valero Keystone Pipeline, and we could have easily tapped into the oil sands in Canada then it would have reduced our demand on foreign oil, therefore resulting in lower fuel prices.

End Rant.

Coffee time, and put a little splash of JB in there.  It will be OK  :smile16:

 

[Crusader]

We can make a difference in November 2012!!!

 

[Becket]

We can make a difference in November 2012!!!

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[Patchman]

I feel your pain brother! :smile15:

 

[wildbunch]

1. Houston drivers.  Why is it that Houston drivers do not understand how to drive in the rain?  It is not that complicated..... leave a little more space in front of you, and don’t make erratic movements.  This does not mean you have to drive 20 under the speed limit, and cause major traffic jams on the highway (290) because there is a bit of mist falling from the sky.  Traffic was backed up 3 miles further out 290 than normal..... Idiots.  Buy some good tires, and step on the gas, everything will be fine... pansies.

2.  Diesel Prices.  What the hell.  Diesel is a byproduct of refining gasoline.... it comes off of the refining process earlier than gasoline does.  Why in the HELL is it more expensive than gasoline, and why does the price keep going up.  I understand that Europe has a huge demand for diesel, that is constantly growing, but that shouldn’t cause too large of an effect on US prices.  After all, we have great refining capability, and get a decent amount of crude from the Americas.  If Obama would have approved the Valero Keystone Pipeline, and we could have easily tapped into the oil sands in Canada then it would have reduced our demand on foreign oil, therefore resulting in lower fuel prices.

End Rant.

The same reason pick ups are more expensive now. Back in the 1970's & 1980's pick ups were the cheapist vehicleyou could buy. Now look at all the 4x4 diesel pick ups setting in front of apartments, & in the  city driveways.  most of those people don't pull anything but a boat or small camper & could use a 1/2 ton gas pick up. We're ranchers & did'nt start driving diesel pick ups until 1987. I guess what I'm trying to say is supply & demand. I'll quit ranting now myself......diesel prices just pisses me off. whatever.gif

 

[Devilman]

Not just Houston drivers, thats everywhere. People just don't give a shitt these days, everybody is wrapped up in their own little world & God help you if you get tangled up with them.

Far as fuel prices, eh, its aggravating for sure, but I don't let it bother me much anymore. Don't get me wrong, it has jumped up 20+ cents in 2 or 3 days & when I see the price go up I still utter a few choice words out loud to the interior of my truck, lol...

When trucks & diesel rigs became "fashionable", it was only a matter of time that cost of them & associated items would go up along with their popularity.

 

[TexasJet]

What I don't understand is diesel is the cheapest to refine and now it's more expensive than high test.

I read in the paper a lot of the major refiners are shipping gasoline and diesel overseas because we are using less here in the USA. So, the more we conserve the more they will ship overseas. We are screwed!

 

[scarabscs]

What I don't understand is diesel is the cheapest to refine and now it's more expensive than high test.

I read in the paper a lot of the major refiners are shipping gasoline and diesel overseas because we are using less here in the USA. So, the more we conserve the more they will ship overseas. We are screwed!

Had some good coffee and im all good now!  As far as diesel, you are right, we are shipping the stuff overseas.  We are a whole lot cheaper than the EU on Diesel, but unfortunately its the worlds demand thats driving our prices up.  I guess the gasoline and diesel markets are completely seperate, since they dont collectively reflect the price of crude.

 

[Knotty Girl]

Well I do not want to sound like a know it all about diesel, but it used to be cheaper to refine. Now the federal government got involved and put tougher EPA requirements on it.  Actually it cost more to refine now.  I buy 10,000 of it a week.  I have studied the cost for years.  It also cost a lot more to manufacture a diesel engine because of the new requirements.  I do not want to bore y'all with a chemical break down of the fuel.  I had the same argument until I did research with my suppliers. Actually the biggest change on refinement was in 2008. Bla Bla Bla  crazy.gif

 

[TexasJet]

Well I do not want to sound like a know it all about diesel, but it used to be cheaper to refine. Now the federal government got involved and put tougher EPA requirements on it.  Actually it cost more to refine now.  I buy 10,000 of it a week.  I have studied the cost for years.  It also cost a lot more to manufacture a diesel engine because of the new requirements.  I do not want to bore y'all with a chemical break down of the fuel.  I had the same argument until I did research with my suppliers. Actually the biggest change on refinement was in 2008. Bla Bla Bla  crazy.gif

You got my curiosity up now. I now low sulfur diesel cost more than back in the day but diesel is still the first cut off the tower. I'm gonna do some inhouse research on it. Might have to throw the challenge flag on ya.  :smile30:

 

[Patchman]

I was told the diesel would go through the roof when they had to do the changeover. Well it's done, now drop the price! :smile15:

 

[Disturbed]

I was told the diesel would go through the roof when they had to do the changeover. Well it's done, now drop the price! :smile15:

You're funny! 

 

[turboed-tx-20]

The reason diesel prices went up higher than regular is due to higher utilities cost.When our lovely gov decided  to mandate 50 ppm or less of sulfer the refineries had to add to the processing of it.A local plant here actually built another unit.But ya,that was 4 years ago,i'm sure it's paid for by now.I'm feeling the pain too.

 

[spd500]

They say that what goes up must come down , but I don't think that applies to fuel prices  :smile30:

 

[scarabscs]

Thats right, the low sulphur content requirements were a large costs for the refineries.  All of the modification to the refining process had to cost a decent amount, but as you all have said, that was then.... this is now!

Im afraid its become one of the costs that the people have gotten used to, so the fuel suppliers are keeping the prices up.  A good example of this would be when crude prices were down to $75 per barrel; the price at the pump sure didnt reflect as large of a reduction as you would think.

 

[Knotty Girl]

You cannot judge at the pump prices off of cost per drum.  Large purchasers buy fuel by hedging.  Therefore the purchase way before the barrel price goes up and down.  That is what changes the market price not the barrel.  Just say'n

 

[jdeaton]

Why build a pipeline to buy more oil from Canada, why not approve more deep water permits, employee Americans, and build a pipe line from Deep water Gulf to the refinerys?  And while I'm on this rant, why am I hauling more and more South American labor offshore?  Is our work force so lazy and spoiled they wont do the work offshore, so the oil companys have to hire foreign workers? I was amazed to hear that picking Apples pays $150.00 a day and the farmer can't get any American labor to go to work.

 

[Knotty Girl]

Why build a pipeline to buy more oil from Canada, why not approve more deep water permits, employee Americans, and build a pipe line from Deep water Gulf to the refinerys?  And while I'm on this rant, why am I hauling more and more South American labor offshore?  Is our work force so lazy and spoiled they wont do the work offshore, so the oil companys have to hire foreign workers? I was amazed to hear that picking Apples pays $150.00 a day and the farmer can't get any American labor to go to work.

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[jdeaton]

Henry, If I start sounding like Rooney, slap me back into reality! :smile26: