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Last Mohecian

Last Mohecian

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spd500 said:
Ok , cool . So do I upload it to photobucket the same way and just post a link ?
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You can.  I personally prefer YouTube for video over Photobucket.  No real reason why I guess just because that is how I started posting video.  You can post video to either one.
 
spd500

spd500

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OK , here is a quick video , but it's hard to really tell the true effect of the flake in the video . You can see the color difference after shooting the blue over it , but the sparkle is alot more intense on both halves of the panel in person .

 
spd500

spd500

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I am sure you can tell in the video that I did not wait the required amount of time before taping it up to paint the other half of the panel . I knew it was going to have tape tracking , but it's a test panel and I didn't want to wait around to see what it would look like .
Maybe we will actually get some sun some time soon and I can post something that will show the effect better .
 
spd500

spd500

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Yeah , and maybe Customtouch will be online to tell me what I am doing wrong with it between now and then . I am sure that I used way too much of the flake in the first place , and I put several coats of it on the test panel . If I painted the panel blue first and then put one coat of blue with the flake in it I am sure I would have different results . There are lots of variables that can change the outcome of this kinda thing , so I will wait for further instruction . Or , if I get a chance I will give him a call and see what he says .
 
spd500

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I like the one on the right better myself . The one on the left is more purple than blue and the flake is just too much . I need to figure out the mix on this stuff and try doing it right , then we will have a little better idea of how it will look .
 
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customtouch

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Well, you seem to be finding out all the things I was trying to explain. Yes this product is real easy to over do. You will not have much luck trying to lay down a heavy coat of it and then spray the regular paint over that. It is not designed to work like a metalflake/candy type process. The best way to do it is get the color on the boat almost fully covered without the flake in it. Then you spray on 2-3 more medium coats with just a "SMALL AMOUNT" of the flake in it. (I usually do 3) This will give you the subtle layered effect with most of the flake buried and shining up through the blue that you are looking for. I usually have already designated enough paint with the proper amount of flake, to do the top 3 coats before I start painting. If you don't want to do it that way then after you have the boat in color, add a little flake to the rest (keep in mind it is easy to add but hard to take away), spray one medium coat, see if you like it, add more if necessary, and spray two more medium coats. Do not over reduce the top coats or try to dust it on lightly like you would to even out the metallic. Both of these processes will result in the flake sitting on top of the blue and you won't like it. I mentioned this once before but you will need to be sure and constantly keep the paint stirred and shake you gun often because this stuff likes to settle to the bottom of the gun and the can fast. If it settles in the paint gun you will be very inconsistent with your flake. (If it sets for very long it will almost clog the gun depending on how much of it is in there) The effects of this stuff cannot be explained or photographed. You just have to see it in person to understand.  If you can get the mixture right I think you are going to love it. Unfortunately there isn't a "formula" to it. It is just experimenting. Hope this helps but like I said before, you have my number and it is no problem if you want to call.
 
spd500

spd500

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I do plan to give you a call about this stuff, it was just too late to call by the time I got free last night. Our idiot dog ate something and made himself sick last night, he puked all over the house.  I will be calling in a little while though.
 
spd500

spd500

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Ok , I talked with Customtouch about this stuff , and I got it all wrong on the test panel . When I mixed the paint for the test panel I added just a tiny bit of the flake to it , but that was still way too much . I mixed 2 ounces of paint for the test panel and with that small of a mix you will almost always end up with too much flake . I am going to play with this stuff in the next day or two and try mixing the actual paint that will be sprayed on the boat . In a larger batch like that it should be easier to control how much flake is being added . What I am hoping to get is where you don't really see the flake at all in the blue , unless the light hits it just right . When I did the test panel the flake actually changed the color from blue to purple because there was too much of it in the paint . From what I am told I need to start with a tiny amount in a few quarts of paint , and add very very slowly to that until I get just the right look .

Thanks for all the great advice Customtouch  :smile17:
 
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blazeracer

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That's exactly what I used on my boat when I removed the old paint from the gel, finding ruined gel underneath it leading me to painting the entire boat.
 
77Jet Star

77Jet Star

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spd500 said:
trailer trash junkies said:
try a quart of this stuff it'll be an improvement
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Wrong kind of stripper dipsh!t  crazy.gif No wonder your boat looks like that  think.gif
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I will say one thing it may not be pretty but that is one good running boat  you have to admit :smile14:
 
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customtouch

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spd500 said:
Ok , I talked with Customtouch about this stuff , and I got it all wrong on the test panel . When I mixed the paint for the test panel I added just a tiny bit of the flake to it , but that was still way too much . I mixed 2 ounces of paint for the test panel and with that small of a mix you will almost always end up with too much flake . I am going to play with this stuff in the next day or two and try mixing the actual paint that will be sprayed on the boat . In a larger batch like that it should be easier to control how much flake is being added . What I am hoping to get is where you don't really see the flake at all in the blue , unless the light hits it just right . When I did the test panel the flake actually changed the color from blue to purple because there was too much of it in the paint . From what I am told I need to start with a tiny amount in a few quarts of paint , and add very very slowly to that until I get just the right look .

Thanks for all the great advice Customtouch  :smile17:
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Don't be "too" scared of adding the flake to it. If you do on a sunny day you can add some flake, stir it, then take the can outside in the sun, dip the stir stick in and check it while it is still real wet. This gives you a pretty good idea of what it will look like before you spray your test panel. This will also keep you from having to spray too many test panels.   
 
spd500

spd500

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That's pretty much the plan , based on what we talked about . I will just add very small amounts at a time and keep checking it until I think I am close .
 
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