Nozzle

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How come ever since I put the place diverter on my boat it don't pull near as hard on the launch? It feels faster on top end but the gps says its not?
 

Devilman

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Only 2 things I can think of is maybe the diverter, even in the "down"position, is not at the same angle as the orginal nozzle when it was on there. Or maybe the original nozzle has a different I.D. than the Place diverter nozzle?

I'm guessing diverter position/angle.... When I put my pump back in, I didn't get my diverter hooked back up the way it was before & I can definitely tell a difference in the settings now. I just haven't taken the time to readjust it.
 

Patchman

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Devilman said:
Only 2 things I can think of is maybe the diverter, even in the "down"position, is not at the same angle as the orginal nozzle when it was on there. Or maybe the original nozzle has a different I.D. than the Place diverter nozzle?

I'm guessing diverter position/angle.... When I put my pump back in, I didn't get my diverter hooked back up the way it was before & I can definitely tell a difference in the settings now. I just haven't taken the time to readjust it.

That would be my guess! X2 think.gif
 

TintMan

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maybe you have on a different set of pants...just feels different! whatever.gif Or maybe you are used to the holeshot now...???? :smile30:
 

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I have a wedge so the nozzle has always angled up some. And all the way down is too far down. I can put the nozzle at same angle it was with other nozzle and it don't pull near as hard
 

turboed-tx-20

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does the diverter have the ftn option?I'd measure the old and new nozzle id and let us know what you find out.I had a nozzle insert fall out one time and it slowed the boat way down. Also curious why you have the nozzle wedged up? how much power you makin?
A picture may help spot something too.
 

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turboed-tx-20 said:
does the diverter have the ftn option?I'd measure the old and new nozzle id and let us know what you find out.I had a nozzle insert fall out one time and it slowed the boat way down. Also curious why you have the nozzle wedged up? how much power you makin?
A picture may help spot something too.
Thats the way it was when i bought the boat. My guess was to make the boat ride dryer without a place diverter? my old nozzle does have a reducer. I was looking at it the other day trying to figure it out and i did notice the seal on the place diverter dont seal to the droop very good. Im turning an aluminum B impeller 5800-5900rpm so 500-550hp? Ill try and get some pics up but my computer hasnt been loading them for some reason.
 

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Just measured the reducer in old nozzle and it is 3in and the place diverter nozzle is 3.5in. is that enough difference to be my issue?
 

Crusader

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Here's some pictures of Bobbys pump

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Crusader

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I just uploaded to photobucket and then copied the code and inserted it into the post. I didn't upload anything up to the site.
 

blazeracer

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Motor Head said:
Thats the way it was when i bought the boat. My guess was to make the boat ride dryer without a place diverter? my old nozzle does have a reducer. I was looking at it the other day trying to figure it out and i did notice the seal on the place diverter dont seal to the droop very good. Im turning an aluminum B impeller 5800-5900rpm so 500-550hp? Ill try and get some pics up but my computer hasnt been loading them for some reason.

Mine is the same way. And yeah, the nozzle size will make a big difference in the velocity of the water stream. I've always wondered what a nozzle insert would do for my boat.
 

Devilman

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Motor Head said:
Thats the way it was when i bought the boat. My guess was to make the boat ride dryer without a place diverter? my old nozzle does have a reducer. I was looking at it the other day trying to figure it out and i did notice the seal on the place diverter dont seal to the droop very good. Im turning an aluminum B impeller 5800-5900rpm so 500-550hp? Ill try and get some pics up but my computer hasnt been loading them for some reason.

The different nozzle with no reducer could sure playin a part.. The part in bold raises questions as well, whatcha mean exactly that it doesn't seal to the droop very good. I want to say there is 2 different diverters that depending on how old/new it may be may require a different O-ring to seal in the droop.... I can't say for certain, but sure seems where I have read about that before...
 

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blazeracer said:
Motor Head said:
Thats the way it was when i bought the boat. My guess was to make the boat ride dryer without a place diverter? my old nozzle does have a reducer. I was looking at it the other day trying to figure it out and i did notice the seal on the place diverter dont seal to the droop very good. Im turning an aluminum B impeller 5800-5900rpm so 500-550hp? Ill try and get some pics up but my computer hasnt been loading them for some reason.

Mine is the same way. And yeah, the nozzle size will make a big difference in the velocity of the water stream. I've always wondered what a nozzle insert would do for my boat.
if its anything like mine a big difference!! You road in my boat. You remember how it set you back in the seat pretty good from the launch? it dont even come close now! I just put the nozzle with the reducer in it back on it. We will see what it does. Thanks tint!
 

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Devilman said:
Motor Head said:
Thats the way it was when i bought the boat. My guess was to make the boat ride dryer without a place diverter? my old nozzle does have a reducer. I was looking at it the other day trying to figure it out and i did notice the seal on the place diverter dont seal to the droop very good. Im turning an aluminum B impeller 5800-5900rpm so 500-550hp? Ill try and get some pics up but my computer hasnt been loading them for some reason.

The different nozzle with no reducer could sure playin a part.. The part in bold raises questions as well, whatcha mean exactly that it doesn't seal to the droop very good. I want to say there is 2 different diverters that depending on how old/new it may be may require a different O-ring to seal in the droop.... I can't say for certain, but sure seems where I have read about that before...
Well i looked at it real good before i took it off and  the O-ring was touching all the way around it just didnt fit as snug as the other nozzle. you could move it side to side a little.
 

blazeracer

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Just wondering, does a Place nozzle need machine work to install a nozzle insert sleeve that's made for a Place diverter?

http://www.cpperformance.com/p-900-3-18-red-nozzle-insert-sleeve.aspx

When I first the droop on mine there was spray coming out every which way and I could see a piece of teflon hanging down. I think it had since been blownout, but I can move the nozzle up and down about 1/8" freely.
 

turboed-tx-20

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Devilman said:
Motor Head said:
Thats the way it was when i bought the boat. My guess was to make the boat ride dryer without a place diverter? my old nozzle does have a reducer. I was looking at it the other day trying to figure it out and i did notice the seal on the place diverter dont seal to the droop very good. Im turning an aluminum B impeller 5800-5900rpm so 500-550hp? Ill try and get some pics up but my computer hasnt been loading them for some reason.

The different nozzle with no reducer could sure playin a part.. The part in bold raises questions as well, whatcha mean exactly that it doesn't seal to the droop very good. I want to say there is 2 different diverters that depending on how old/new it may be may require a different O-ring to seal in the droop.... I can't say for certain, but sure seems where I have read about that before...
been down that road,the older droops have a larger exit opening where the oring from the diverter seats against. The new diverters have a smaller od where the oring installs on the diverter.if this is the case you'll need a newer style droop.

To make the boat ride dryer you would wedge the droop  down compared to the bottom of the boat.
the lower the droop exit the more lift you get,it will push the boat up out of the water,wedge the snoot up and it drives the front of the boat down.you can take the wedge out and see what it will do.
as long as it don't drag the nozzle through the water too much.

 

turboed-tx-20

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blazeracer said:
Just wondering, does a Place nozzle need machine work to install a nozzle insert sleeve that's made for a Place diverter?

http://www.cpperformance.com/p-900-3-18-red-nozzle-insert-sleeve.aspx

When I first the droop on mine there was spray coming out every which way and I could see a piece of teflon hanging down. I think it had since been blownout, but I can move the nozzle up and down about 1/8" freely.
did you buy the droop used?the older droops have a larger exit id,if a new oring don't fix it you may need to get a new droop.I learned all this the hard way.


they sell nozzles 2 ways,just a solid id or machined out to accept the flow tune nozzzles.if you have the solid type you can get it machined out.IMO  if your under 500 hp it wouldn't be worth getting it machined but if your gonna buy a new one,get the inserts.

Hey Duane,if you see this,i don't think i am getting my pm's,can you check it out,i will send you one,please send me one back if you get it.
 

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Thanks for the info turboed-tx-20. Did you look at the pics that were posted? So the wedge is in upside-down? I would think if I point the nozzle down with the wedge the the pressure would be pushing up on the back of the boat and push the front down?
 
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