Holley 850 Marine carburetor for the Crusader

[Last Mohecian]

just a guess but i bet it would be inconclusive-i dont think the intake is near the factor as heads/valve train combo would be.

Not to mention atmosphere and water conditions.  I betting the difference would be so insignificant you could account for it with either.

 

[Last Mohecian]

That edelbrock torker 2 has a power band from 2500-6500. Seems about right to me.But what do i know... think.gif

newbee guy question here. I have the Torker II 460. Is that the same thing as a Torker II?

Yes.  That is the Torker II for the 460 ford as opposed to the Torker II for a SBC or Torker II for BBC etc... etc...

 

[Crusader]

just a guess but i bet it would be inconclusive-i dont think the intake is near the factor as heads/valve train combo would be.

Not to mention atmosphere and water conditions.  I betting the difference would be so insignificant you could account for it with either.

I'm not gonna trade out the Torker II if it's good enough for what I'm running. No need to throw away unessesary cheddar if I don't have too. As it is in the last week I've spent $920 on that biatch.

 

[blazeracer]

I think you should put that tunnel ram that's for sale on yours if you're going to cut a hole in the deck. At WOT a jet boat motor never see's under 4,000rpm. You don't need an intake that makes power at 2,000, you need power at 4,000 plus.

My boat with the Stealth from a dead stop.. Nailed the throttle, the tach jumped to 5,000 until the pump overcame cavitation, then dropped to 4,600 till it got up to speed and creeped back up to about 4,900.

Same boat, same carb, same afternoon I think you'll be surprised how big a difference you will see in 0-50 times between low rise, high rise and single plane intakes.

Remember the vid where you killed me out of the hole in your Rebel? How bad do you beat Chad out of the hole? I ask because Chad and I made a short run at the last Lavon meeting and we were dead even out of hole after I put on the Stealth. That was a no nitrous pass with my crappy old worn out pump. He got me on the top end by a couple of MPH. I was temped to hit the spray, but didn't.

 

[Last Mohecian]

I think you should put that tunnel ram that's for sale on yours if you're going to cut a hole in the deck. At WOT a jet boat motor never see's under 4,000rpm. You don't need an intake that makes power at 2,000, you need power at 4,000 plus.

My boat with the Stealth from a dead stop.. Nailed the throttle, the tach jumped to 5,000 until the pump overcame cavitation, then dropped to 4,600 till it got up to speed and creeped back up to about 4,900.

Same boat, same carb, same afternoon I think you'll be surprised how big a difference you will see in 0-50 times between low rise, high rise and single plane intakes.

Remember the vid where you killed me out of the hole in your Rebel? How bad do you beat Chad out of the hole? I ask because Chad and I made a short run at the last Lavon meeting and we were dead even out of hole after I put on the Stealth. That was a no nitrous pass with my crappy old worn out pump. He got me on the top end by a couple of MPH. I was temped to hit the spray, but didn't.

I don't think Chad and I ran from a dead stop after I got my boat running right.  I know we are pretty close top end.  He may chime in with a different story.

 

[TintMan]

just a guess but i bet it would be inconclusive-i dont think the intake is near the factor as heads/valve train combo would be.

On my Glastron, stock intake with beer can sized SCJ ports vs. Stealth with the same ports was night and day, no other changes made. Best ever GPS run on stock intake was 62.2, with the Stealth was 66.7. Never did a measurement of 0-50 but that difference would be even bigger judging by the seat of my pants.

Takin the stock intake outta the equation-was talkin torkerII vs.Stealth.  :smile16: The torker 2 is a single plane and the stealth is dual plane-i know which i'd go with,but again i'm just guessing! :smile30:

 

[blazeracer]

I think the Torker II is closer to the stock intake than the Stealth. I think it has even a lower rise than the stock intake. I saw Cliffs motor. It looks like the carb is sitting in the lifter valley on top of that Torker II.

 

[TintMan]

I think the Torker II is closer to the stock intake than the Stealth. I think it has even a lower rise than the stock intake. I saw Cliffs motor. It looks like the carb is sitting in the lifter valley on top of that Torker II.

the height isnt were all the performance comes from-quote ...


Edelbrock's Torker II intake manifolds feature a single-plane, low-rise design that can give you top-end horsepower without affecting the mid-range. What Edelbrock did was increase the plenum volume and alter the short-side radius of the runners, to give the air/fuel charge a straight shot at the intake valves. That straight shot produces a potent power build from 2,500 to 6,500 rpm.
Again-more to consider than just the intake-i think he's fine with the one he has on a 500 something motor-the carb will definitely help! :smile17:

 

[JYBTX19]

I think the Torker II is closer to the stock intake than the Stealth. I think it has even a lower rise than the stock intake. I saw Cliffs motor. It looks like the carb is sitting in the lifter valley on top of that Torker II.

the height isnt were all the performance comes from-quote ...


Edelbrock's Torker II intake manifolds feature a single-plane, low-rise design that can give you top-end horsepower without affecting the mid-range. What Edelbrock did was increase the plenum volume and alter the short-side radius of the runners, to give the air/fuel charge a straight shot at the intake valves. That straight shot produces a potent power build from 2,500 to 6,500 rpm.
Again-more to consider than just the intake-i think he's fine with the one he has on a 500 something motor-the carb will definitely help! :smile17:

Got to remember those FORD guys need all the help they can get to try to outrun the chevies! :smile26:

 

[blazeracer]

Again-more to consider than just the intake-i think he's fine with the one he has on a 500 something motor-the carb will definitely help!

Yeah, you're right there. The carb is going to make a big difference over that spray painted one on there now. You guys better get to working on those Chevies or all you will see is Ford rooster tails.... While tucked in behind my windshield listening to the stereo.

 

[TintMan]

Again-more to consider than just the intake-i think he's fine with the one he has on a 500 something motor-the carb will definitely help!

Yeah, you're right there. The carb is going to make a big difference over that spray painted one on there now. You guys better get to working on those Chevies or all you will see is Ford rooster tails.... While tucked in behind my windshield listening to the stereo.

yeah i'm puttin in about 40 hours a week on mine to get ready for ya!  :smile30: well actually i waxed it and drained the water outta the block.ahahaa!  bling.gif

 

[horsepower junkie]

You guys better get to working on those Chevies or all you will see is Ford rooster tails.... While tucked in behind my windshield listening to the stereo.
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I bet I'll be just fine the way mine is.  :smile30:

 

[blazeracer]

I bet I'll be just fine the way mine is.  :smile30:

That was aimed at our 5 man crew with 2 Fords and 3 GM's that are all pretty close now. Like we're probably all within 4mph of each other when I'm not using juice. Matt and I should see big gains next spring, especially if he changes his pump. Cliff will pick up some with a carb that works properly. Chad's nice new interior should be worth 20 horsepower (LOL). Brent is the unknown. No idea what he's up to this winter.

We are The Lavon Amigo's, 5 boats all running 55 -59 representing Ford (X2), Chevy, Olds and Pontiac. I should put a Hemi in mine then well have everything covered. haha

 

[horsepower junkie]

Just checkin, Hey it's fun no matter how fast your going :grin: :grin:

 

[sturat]

Just checkin, Hey it's fun no matter how fast your going :grin: :grin:

True true but a whole lot more fun looking back at your buddie with a snarl on his face :smile16:

 

[Crusader]

I spent a whole lotta cheddar on the crusader lately. I'll keep the Torker II for now and maybe do something else next year. For now I just want to get that new 850 dialed in and start making some better pass's with a serious roost!!

 

[jdeaton]

Cliff, While you are waiting for the carb, make sure you match the intake runners to the head.  Its takes a dremel or small air grinder and time.  But it is well worth the effort.  Flow them Heads big boy. :smile27:

 

[Last Mohecian]

We are The Lavon Amigo's

I like this. 

 

[Last Mohecian]

Cliff, While you are waiting for the carb, make sure you match the intake runners to the head.  Its takes a dremel or small air grinder and time.

You mean like gasket matching?

 

[Devilman]

Just checkin, Hey it's fun no matter how fast your going :grin: :grin:

Sez the guy with the big ass blower on his mill.... :grin: