anybody heard from henry? heard he wrecked the hydro

Devilman

Devilman

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horsepower junkie said:
Well I need to know so I have John weld on the mounting brackets on your Grill Gaurd  :grin: :grin:
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Solid work man... lol :grin: :cheesy: :grin:
 
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ChryslerJet

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Knotty said:
I also do not blame the location I love going down there.  I just did not use good judgement for a run at that speed.  Again I tought I had tested well enough at slower speeds, but just goes to show you cannot be safe enough.  Over kill your safety concerns then you might be OK.  I have no one or place to blame but myself for my accident.
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It's just inexperience with that boat is all Henry lesson learned an expensive one at that but learned none the less.  Your Baker as long as it was was a totally different animal than this one so I can imagine part of that was what was goign through your mind when working out the safety and thoughts on when to shut down and turn.
 
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3boatpaul

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Knotty said:
I am now going to be a grumpy old dude fussing at people if I think they are putting themselves or someone else in danger.  I think I have earned that right now.  :smile16:
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  :smile27: welcome to the club. i know thru the year's people have prob. got tired of me saying SAFTY SAFTY, but i have been on the bank twice myself first time not so good. second at palistine, that one just at a high idle, still put the boat 18 ft up the grass. i have friend's that have gone over the boat , one that went thru the boat , and one that fell out when it kited. bottom line was the safty gear worked. they lived to tell there tail.    be safe all.
 
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Disturbed

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3boatpaul said:
Knotty said:
I am now going to be a grumpy old dude fussing at people if I think they are putting themselves or someone else in danger.  I think I have earned that right now.  :smile16:
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  :smile27: welcome to the club. i know thru the year's people have prob. got tired of me saying SAFTY SAFTY, but i have been on the bank twice myself first time not so good. second at palistine, that one just at a high idle, still put the boat 18 ft up the grass. i have friend's that have gone over the boat , one that went thru the boat , and one that fell out when it kited. bottom line was the safty gear worked. they lived to tell there tail.    be safe all.
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galen

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Henry, Glad your just banged up a little. We just don't heal so fast anymore. I have a buddy in California Tony Lehman that runs the same hull you have in the 150-160 range. He helped me with the setup on mine. Wealth of knowledge and a very nice guy. I will pm you his e-mail, run your steering questions past him. Get well soon bud.
 
Knotty Girl

Knotty Girl

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galen said:
Henry, Glad your just banged up a little. We just don't heal so fast anymore. I have a buddy in California Tony Lehman that runs the same hull you have in the 150-160 range. He helped me with the setup on mine. Wealth of knowledge and a very nice guy. I will pm you his e-mail, run your steering questions past him. Get well soon bud.
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Thanks!
 
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soldier of fortune

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Knotty said:
Crusader said:
Henry, are you sure you didn't have a steering problem? Is the rudder that short on it? At slow speeds, I cannot imagine not being able to have some steering control.... How do you keep it straight when hauling a$$?

I'm not trying to be a smart a$$ here, I really don't know the answer to my questions.
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Actually I have a very good steering system, However it is a short rudder.  I am changing to rudder to a longer one and thinking about going to a dual rudder.  At speed you do steer left to keep it straight. You have to just be at a crawl to turn it and it takes a large space at that.  Just the nature of the beast.
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talk to 3boatpaul he designed and built his twin rudder system
 
Patchman

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I think 3boat can give you an idea at what speed that boat is actually flying and no longer capable of turning. I remember riding in Randall's, and it didn't turn very easily from what I could tell. Was pretty dam fun though! :smile16:
 
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3boatpaul

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soldier of fortune said:
Knotty said:
Crusader said:
Henry, are you sure you didn't have a steering problem? Is the rudder that short on it? At slow speeds, I cannot imagine not being able to have some steering control.... How do you keep it straight when hauling a$$?

I'm not trying to be a smart a$$ here, I really don't know the answer to my questions.
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Actually I have a very good steering system, However it is a short rudder.  I am changing to rudder to a longer one and thinking about going to a dual rudder.  At speed you do steer left to keep it straight. You have to just be at a crawl to turn it and it takes a large space at that.  Just the nature of the beast.
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talk to 3boatpaul he designed and built his twin rudder system
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as you have found out, once into the run you will be fighting the steering to the left big time just to keep it straight. nature of the beast with a offset rudder. prop rotation and torque will want to push you to the right big time.with twin rudder's it will negate it some what but is not the cure.  the ONLY reason i use twin rudder's is for ease of turning at low speed's. as a single rudder take's forever to turn to  the left  hence the reason for twin's.
they dam sure will turn to the right, not a prob. there . left not so good. you'r rudder lgth. ?? just have to look at it.  i just put longer rudder's on mine after seeing some pic's  NOW LET ME ADD THIS, once into a high speed run just fight the prop torque with as you found out by keeping just enough steering input to keep straight. any wild steering input after you have commited into the run JUST MIGHT CAUSE YOU TO BARREL ROLL THE BOAT. and that will not be a good outcome.
 
Knotty Girl

Knotty Girl

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I thought I would try my longer rudder first and go from there.  I am sure this is almost like a prop selection.  You have to try a few things to see what is right for the characteristics of your boat.  I am sure each one is unique in their own way. I do not think I need to do any radical changes just need a little more control and lower speed.  The boat runs straight and like it is on rails.  I will make sure next time I have proper space for a run.
 
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3boatpaul

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Knotty said:
I thought I would try my longer rudder first and go from there.  I am sure this is almost like a prop selection.  You have to try a few things to see what is right for the characteristics of your boat.  I am sure each one is unique in their own way. I do not think I need to do any radical changes just need a little more control and lower speed.  The boat runs straight and like it is on rails.  I will make sure next time I have proper space for a run.
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nothing wrong with you'r set up. it PULL'S STRONG AND WICKED QUICK. just fix that bug impact in the frt. :smile26:
also ck. every dam thing in it  bolt's nut's mount's --- you get my drift. longer rudder even in that instant would not have helped you,  just too late into the run when the oooo shit factor kicked in . they glid a long way don't they.??? the faster they go the the longer the drop time is eat's up a lot of reale state fast even when you'r out of it.
 
TexasJet

TexasJet

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:smile26: HOLEY CRAP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I step away for a few days, come back and read this! Glad to hear you suffered no permanent damage Henry. The boat on the other hand, wow. It's amazing she didn't take on any water.
 
Knotty Girl

Knotty Girl

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3boatpaul said:
Knotty said:
I thought I would try my longer rudder first and go from there.  I am sure this is almost like a prop selection.  You have to try a few things to see what is right for the characteristics of your boat.  I am sure each one is unique in their own way. I do not think I need to do any radical changes just need a little more control and lower speed.  The boat runs straight and like it is on rails.  I will make sure next time I have proper space for a run.
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nothing wrong with you'r set up. it PULL'S STRONG AND WICKED QUICK. just fix that bug impact in the frt. :smile26:
also ck. every dam thing in it  bolt's nut's mount's --- you get my drift. longer rudder even in that instant would not have helped you,  just too late into the run when the oooo s*** factor kicked in . they glid a long way don't they.??? the faster they go the the longer the drop time is eat's up a lot of reale state fast even when you'r out of it.
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Yep I know a longer rudder would not have helped me then.  Just might help a little when I and idling around to turn.
 
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