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Becket

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Somebody please talk tech about Ride plates, shoes, etc, I am Building the Engine that will give me the HP that I want and I would like to compliment the Engine with some mods to the Boat itself, A loader is a no brainer, I am installing that but when it comes to "shoe" and ride plate I am at a loss as to what I would need to do to be beneficial and not just be throwing parts at the Boat.

I know that every boat is different but is there a good "beginners" set up to start with? there has to be a starting point for this but I don't know where to start.

Who does this kind of work, so on and so forth.

The Boat handles great as is, the ride is nice no matter the Diverter position, it Does NOT porpoise at anytime, I am not trying to correct a problem with the Boat, I just want to know if any of the above mentioned would be beneficial to it. 

The ONLY issue I have is Burning the Imp. I am hoping that the Loader will solve that issue, I have stock rock grate on it now.

My ride; 18' 77 Jet Star, V Bottom. Berk 12-JG pump, "A" Imp, 514 BBF Mill. 
 
spd500

spd500

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The easy way would be to get the droop that has a ride plate built in . Not sure you will gain anything from it though if the boat has no ride issues .
 
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KONA77

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best advise i can give you is call Duane at Hi-Tech

my understanding of the ride plate is it's used to adjust the additude of the boat,  where the boat rides wet or dry,  the shoe is used to divert more water into the intake,  the need for a shoe is a trial and error approach,  by checking the bowl pressure,  there is alot more to it than these two lines of info...... 
 
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southwind854

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Not really a highly technical issue , but the boats high end performance will suffer of greatly in prove with the add on of the correct shoe and plate angle. Alot depends on if ur running a true tunnel or a vee bottom. Alot depends on your intake angle are you running a low profile. The low profile runs alot less shoe under the boat. Note low profiles are mostly used on true tunnel hull Cheyenne's, PC, liberators, And eliminators. Other fact is ur hp ratings. This plays a key role in intake size setup and shoe depth all thing that will have to be adjusted as you go up or down with your hp levels. Tell us more about your hull and hp level and current pump set up and the guys on here souls be very helpful.
 
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Becket

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KONA said:
Gas-Hole,  if i remember right,  doesn't that boat already have a droop and ride plate on it?
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No sir, she is as stock as they come, the only "extra" it has is the Diverter. OH, And it has a wedge in it, have NO idea how much.

So, what I am reading sofar is that if it aint broke, don't fix it.

Correct me if I am wrong, A droop is used to essentially get more "Traction" in the water? 
 
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HammerDown

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Is your shoe cut for a ride plate? Esseintially the ride plate extends the bottom of the hull and "tricks" it into making it longer. By doing this you can control the ride attitude of the boat. Higher and drier or vice versa.

The first consideration in choosing any type of hardware is determining what your pump needs. Is your suction housing drilled and tapped for pressure readings? The suction pressures will tell you which way to go with both loader and shoe.

Theres alot that goes into it, this is just a simple place to start
 
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KONA77

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jmo....  get the motor in and see what is needed next,  the pump needs to be "tune" to your motor/ hp/  cam and so on
 
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Becket

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HammerDown said:
Is your shoe cut for a ride plate? Esseintially the ride plate extends the bottom of the hull and "tricks" it into making it longer. By doing this you can control the ride attitude of the boat. Higher and drier or vice versa.

The first consideration in choosing any type of hardware is determining what your pump needs. Is your suction housing drilled and tapped for pressure readings? The suction pressures will tell you which way to go with both loader and shoe.

Theres alot that goes into it, this is just a simple place to start
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No, the Pump is not drilled or tapped for gauges, there is a thread here some place with instructions for drilling and tapping the pump for pressure readings on the pump output and I have the gauges already and intend to do that but I have seen none for doing this to the suction side, can you tell me where this should be done and what I am looking for in pressure readings? The Engine is out of the Boat so now is the time to do the drilling and tapping.

I have no idea what to look for to see if it is cut for a ride plate, If I am thinking correctly though, the "shoe" should be machined to accept the plate?? 
 
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Becket

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KONA said:
jmo....  get the motor in and see what is needed next,  the pump needs to be "tune" to your motor/ hp/  cam and so on
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Roger that, I am going to get the holes drilled and tapped for the gauges while the Engine is out, The Engine will be back in it Sunday, In the Water monday for breakin, once all thats out of the way I will start getting readings on the pump next time out to see what, if anything needs to be done.

Thanks guys.  :smile16:
 
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HammerDown

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Gas-Hole said:
HammerDown said:
Is your shoe cut for a ride plate? Esseintially the ride plate extends the bottom of the hull and "tricks" it into making it longer. By doing this you can control the ride attitude of the boat. Higher and drier or vice versa.

The first consideration in choosing any type of hardware is determining what your pump needs. Is your suction housing drilled and tapped for pressure readings? The suction pressures will tell you which way to go with both loader and shoe.

Theres alot that goes into it, this is just a simple place to start
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No, the Pump is not drilled or tapped for gauges, there is a thread here some place with instructions for drilling and tapping the pump for pressu think.gifre readings on the pump output and I have the gauges already and intend to do that but I have seen none for doing this to the suction side, can you tell me where this should be done and what I am looking for in pressure readings? The Engine is out of the Boat so now is the time to do the drilling and tapping.

I have no idea what to look for to see if it is cut for a ride plate, If I am thinking correctly though, the "shoe" should be machined to accept the plate?? 
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The taps for suction pressure go right in front of the wear ring boss at about 1 oclock and 5 oclock. I would post pics but im waiting at the hospital waiting on my new daughter to get here. jump.gif

Yes the shoe should have a shoulder machined into it so the ride plate mounts smooth
 
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HammerDown

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Gas-Hole said:
HammerDown said:
As far as pressure, I'm looking for about 40 psi in mine.
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Well Congratulations! drop this thread and go see your new Baby be born!
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Haha thanks! Hell shes laying here watching family fued dozing off. Labor aint what it used to be I guess.
 
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