Bowl drilled crooked?

Last Mohecian

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blazeracer said:
If you're getting water in the intake you got bigger problems than some wet carpet!

Then again, I imagine some of you guys with the "go fast" boats have more car parts than boat parts. Mine's a cruiser boat with marine everything. It's made for all day play on the lake in all conditions.

Is that HEI a marine Dizzy?  :smile28:

I need to check the hull tonight.  Maybe that wil get this thread back on track.  LOL.
 

ChryslerJet

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blazeracer said:
ChryslerJet said:
Last Mohican said:
So you never had anyone in any boat that was soaking wet after swimming, skiing, wake boarding, or flat just falling in?  Marine materials are designed to handle that.  I guess you need to define inside.  :dunno:
I don't think water inside the intake is a good thing.

If you're getting water in the intake you got bigger problems than some wet carpet!

Then again, I imagine some of you guys with the "go fast" boats have more car parts than boat parts. Mine's a cruiser boat with marine everything. It's made for all day play on the lake in all conditions.
Tell me about it my dad in his infinite wisdom decided to drive through a puddle that was THREE FEET Deep in his Lincoln town car needless to say he didn't make it.  And after pumping about 3 gallons of water out of the cylinders and intake it now luckily runs fine no apparant damage actually may have cleaned it up a bit.  But Hydrolocking is not a good thing.
 

ChryslerJet

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Last Mohican said:
blazeracer said:
If you're getting water in the intake you got bigger problems than some wet carpet!

Then again, I imagine some of you guys with the "go fast" boats have more car parts than boat parts. Mine's a cruiser boat with marine everything. It's made for all day play on the lake in all conditions.

Is that HEI a marine Dizzy?  :smile28:

I need to check the hull tonight.  Maybe that wil get this thread back on track.  LOL.
Oops think I just kicked it back off the tracks.  BTW I have Marine everything on mine except the ALternator someone prior to me put a One WIre GM Alternator on my motor.  Planning on getting the screens and just marinizing it myself.

There back on track right??!! think.gif
 

Crusader

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CJ....be sure to upgrade that alternator to a one wire Marine...you can get them on eBay from DB electrical for about $56..... much cheaper than paying for a new boat when yours catches on fire because the alternator isn't screened..

Just my $.02
 

ChryslerJet

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Crusader said:
CJ....be sure to upgrade that alternator to a one wire Marine...you can get them on eBay from DB electrical for about $56..... much cheaper than paying for a new boat when yours catches on fire because the alternator isn't screened..

Just my $.02
Its a pretty common Alternator for both Marine and Auto so yeah they are cheap.  I figure the one wire should be fine on a boat especially a jet cause its usually above 1500 rpms which is the self activation rpm of the alternator.  I did find the Marine screen Casing kit that converts a automotive GM 10SI one wire alternator to Marine use by adding the front and rear flame arrest screens and covers.  That's what I am planning on doing. 
 

jimsplace

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Last Mohican said:
So you never had anyone in any boat that was soaking wet after swimming, skiing, wake boarding, or flat just falling in?  Marine materials are designed to handle that.  I guess you need to define inside.  :dunno:

I didn't say my boat never got wet inside, it does, but not if I can prevent it.  It doesn't do the boat any good.  We try to design the boats to be more forgiving when water is involved, but I still say they aren't designed to get wet. 

None of the marine alternators and marine starters are designed to get wet either, if it is a marine starter, alternator, carburetor or fuel pump it has nothing to do with getting wet, it has to do with being less likely to cause an explosion in an enclosed area.
 

HellinnFrnt

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so whats the deal on the bowl? I'm actually interested ....
 

77Jet Star

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HellinnFrnt said:
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so whats the deal on the bowl? I'm actually interested ....
Sounds like to me he's going to get to the bottom of it.If he is like most of use won't be happy till it's right!! Keep us posted  :smile13:
 

Last Mohecian

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Been studying this a little more. I can't put a level across the center strakes as the keel is lower than the strakes the full length of the strake. I checked the level of the front deck and it is about 1* out. Knowing what little I do about 70's boat construction I would think the deck being level proves absolutely nothing as the deck could be off from the hull. I also checked everything with a new, made in USA angle finder. Got the same results as my other angle finder.

Any other suggestions? I am leaning toward just having the bowl re drilled with the level line I made on it as reference and leaving it at that.
 

72hondo

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Now I'm not a expert by any means so take this for what it's worth.

Boats are built with a certain amount of hook. What if it was made with more than they intended? So they tweaked the intake just a hair to compensate? The further you get from the original tweak the farther left or right it's going to be.

Maybe the owner before you saw the boat never ran true and tried to offset the bowl to try and compensate?

Like the intake was set 1.5 degrees left and the bowl was re drilled for
-1.5 degrees right?

I dunno I'm just throwing stuff out there. Lol
 

Last Mohecian

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72hondo said:
Now I'm not a expert by any means so take this for what it's worth.

Boats are built with a certain amount of hook. What if it was made with more than they intended? So they tweaked the intake just a hair to compensate? The further you get from the original tweak the farther left or right it's going to be.

Maybe the owner before you saw the boat never ran true and tried to offset the bowl to try and compensate?

Like the intake was set 1.5 degrees left and the bowl was re drilled for
-1.5 degrees right?

I dunno I'm just throwing stuff out there. Lol

This bowl came off my cruiser.  It was redrilled before it ever saw this boat.
 

Last Mohecian

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Ugh.  :(    I have been giving serious thought to cutting my losses & parting the Rebel out.  This may be the deciding factor.  I'll let it idle for a week or so but parts may be flying out the shop soon.  Anyone got a stock Jacuzzi YJ laying around?


 

ChryslerJet

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Last Mohican said:
Ugh.  :(    I have been giving serious thought to cutting my losses & parting the Rebel out.  This may be the deciding factor.  I'll let it idle for a week or so but parts may be flying out the shop soon.  Anyone got a stock Jacuzzi YJ laying around?


OUCH  :smile18: :smile18:

That Pontiac has got some power now doesn't it?!!  clap.gif clap.gif jump.gif jump.gif jump.gif jump.gif :smile17: :smile17:
 

duanehydro

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Torquey Pontiac dun twisted the splines.....damn! think.gif sorry about that, man...have you checked on just buying a shaft? (knowing damn good and well you've spent a fortune already)  :smile19: I have some parts, but by no means a new pump...
 

Last Mohecian

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Thanks D.  Problem is the shaft does not exist.  I'd have to have one machined.  This is that older Aggressor conversion.  Tom is building conversions under the Aggressor umbrella (XLerator).  They are a little different so the bowl and shaft will not work with my other parts.

Kinda hard to back off on this one after I have done so much work to the boat but It's about to get expensive again.  That might make this a good place to put the Rebel out of her misery and switch projects.  I do have a PM in to Tom to see what it will cost to assemble a pump with one of his new conversions.  I have a feeling it is going to be enough that I will start looking for a new hull with a Berkeley.  I still need to pull the motor and check the thrust bearing.  It may be wiped at this point if the yolk bound on the pump shaft.  PHQ N boats.
 

blazeracer

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Here's a Berk 12-JC, just glue it in.

http://dallas.craigslist.org/dal/boa/2869318161.html

If you bring that nozzle by the shop today you can take a look at that Enforcer boat I have. It's got a Berk in it.
 

Last Mohecian

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blazeracer said:
Here's a Berk 12-JC, just glue it in.

http://dallas.craigslist.org/dal/boa/2869318161.html

If you bring that nozzle by the shop today you can take a look at that Enforcer boat I have. It's got a Berk in it.

I wish it was that easy.  The hole for a YJ suction is bigger than a Berkeley.  There is glass work that has to be done.  It's a lot more work than just cutting and fitting.  If I am going to do that much work I'd rather do it on a hull that I really want.

I have that nozzle in the truck.  I'll be by there today.
 
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