TWIN TURBO ENGINE

EOSpeed

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I AM CLOSE ON MY NEW TURBO SET UP. I ONLY HAVE HAF A PAGE OF PART TO FIND.
 

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spd500

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That is looking really good . What parts are you looking for ? Someone here might be able to help find some of them .
 

EOSpeed

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IT IS A TO DO LIST MORE THAN PARTS.MAKE UP FUEL LINES, OIL DRANE BACK FOR THE TURBOS AND PUT THE BREATHER ON THE VALVE COVER. MOSTLY THINGS LIKE THAT. MY OTHER TURBO ENGINE IS STILL IN MY 18 HALLETT. THIS ONE IS FOR MY 21 HALLETT. THANK FOR THE OFER TO HELP WITH THE PARTS. E.O.
 

jimsplace

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I have seen E.O.'s turbo motor and it looks awesome.  In case anyone is not familiar with his boats they are real sleepers.  They run a lot faster than you would think.

Everyone has been given their warning.
 

Patchman

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So do you prefer the draw through over a blow through setup. Or do you choose that route because of the  parts already available? It looks great, and I really want to turbo a boat. Keep us posted please! :grin:
 

jimsplace

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Patchman said:
So do you prefer the draw through over a blow through setup. Or do you choose that route because of the  parts already available? It looks great, and I really want to turbo a boat. Keep us posted please! :grin:


For the best information about setting up a turbo, E.O. is as good as it gets around here.  I am sure there are others also, but he can speak on the topic very well.
I just recently got involved with a turbo motor and am excited about it.  One thing I know is, if you put a turbo on it, make sure the motor has a strong bottom end.  Turbos don't know when to stop making power.
 

spd500

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I dont know that it makes more power , but I really like the draw through systems. They are really cool looking , and you can test out different carbs without spending a fortune on blow through carbs .
 

jimsplace

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spd500 said:
I dont know that it makes more power , but I really like the draw through systems. They are really cool looking , and you can test out different carbs without spending a fortune on blow through carbs .

Those in the know seem to think the blow-through actually makes more power than the draw through.  I would say there are a lot more draw-through set-ups available for less money.

The reason as I understand it, is the draw-through requires part of the volume of fuel-air mixture to go through the turbine, while the blow-through only require the volume going through the turbine to be air.  Over-all, the primary factor is really what size turbine is being used.  There are many out there that can explain it much better than me.  I'm a newbie myself.
 

SimplyOrange

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jimsplace said:
Patchman said:
So do you prefer the draw through over a blow through setup. Or do you choose that route because of the  parts already available? It looks great, and I really want to turbo a boat. Keep us posted please! :grin:


For the best information about setting up a turbo, E.O. is as good as it gets around here.  I am sure there are others also, but he can speak on the topic very well.
I just recently got involved with a turbo motor and am excited about it.  One thing I know is, if you put a turbo on it, make sure the motor has a strong bottom end.  Turbos don't know when to stop making power.

isnt that what a waste gate is for? my buddy has been putting 12lbs of boost on stock small blocks in cars for a long time and the bottomend never gives unless they bump it up to 16 psi.set the waste gate for the intended boost and it should be fine, im looking into putting a turbo on my stockish 454, its the most cost effective power available, im thinking i should run a wastegat regulating the boost to 8psi.
 

EOSpeed

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IF YOU WANT TO MAKE BIG POWER THE BLOW THROUGH IS THE WAY TO GO. A C&S CARB AND BIG TURBO YOU CAN  MAKE 1500 TO 2000 ON ALKY. THE 468 IN MY 18 WILL PULL A AA IMP. 6000 RPM EASY. IT 7.5 COMP. AND 15 PSI ON PUMP GAS WITH THE BIG COOLER.
 

spd500

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Why are the draw through systems not able to make the same boost and power?  It seems like it would be a very small difference from one to the other,  as long as you get more fuel and more air you should make more power.
 

jimsplace

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spd500 said:
Why are the draw through systems not able to make the same boost and power?  It seems like it would be a very small difference from one to the other,  as long as you get more fuel and more air you should make more power.

The way I interpret it  With a draw through, the turbo draws fuel and air from the carburetor as a mixture and that must go through the turbo and then to the engine.  If you have ever seen what a carburetor looks like (down the carburetor throat) when it is drawing a lot of air wide open, it will amaze you at how much fuel is added to the airstream.  That fuel takes space from the amount of air that a turbo can ultimately pass through.  On a blow-through the turbo can provide a flow of 100% air with fuel being added as it passes through the carburetor. 

The end result ends up being  100% air volume plus fuel for blow-through or 100% air volume minus the fuel volume for draw through.  There may be other factors also.

I don't know how much difference it can actually make. 
 

spd500

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OK , but why not just get a bigger turbo to compensate for the added volume going through it ? As long as you are getting the same amount of air and the same amount of fuel to the motor it should make the same amount of power right ?
 

EOSpeed

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THE BIG TURBO DONT HAVE SEALS TO KEEP THE FUEL OUT OF THE OIL THAT LUBES THE TURBO. RAJAY TURBO HAVE SEALS THAT WILL DO THIS. THE BIG TURBO ARE BUILT FOR DIESEL ENGINES THAT HAVE INJECTORS. THE CHEP TURBO ON EBAY HAVE NO SEALS THEY ARE MADE FOR EFI RICE BURNERS. I WANT TO BUILD A FAST EFI SET UP WITH INJECTORS IN THE INTAKE AND A 2000 CFM THROTTLE BODY IN PLACE OF THE CARB. I DONT WANT TO SPEND THE 4000 TO 5000 THAT IT WILL COST. EATHER SET UP WITH THE SAME CFM CARB WILL MAKE THE SAME HP + OR - A FEW. I AM GOING TO RUN A 850 ON E85 TO START WITH. I HAVE A 1050 TO TRY AFTER I GET THE SET UP GOING.
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EOSpeed said:
IF YOU WANT TO MAKE BIG POWER THE BLOW THROUGH IS THE WAY TO GO. A C&S CARB AND BIG TURBO YOU CAN  MAKE 1500 TO 2000 ON ALKY. THE 468 IN MY 18 WILL PULL A AA IMP. 6000 RPM EASY. IT 7.5 COMP. AND 15 PSI ON PUMP GAS WITH THE BIG COOLER.
.  That's hauling a$$!!
 
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